All in the Family featured the curmudgeonly Archie Bunker. Archie was television’s most famous grouch, blunt, blustering, straightforward and untouched by the PC crowd. He was the archetype of the conservative male. Michael desprately tried to reeducate him, but he persisted in his breviloquence.

Looking back at the last 40 years, we realize: ARCHIE WAS RIGHT!


A Good Cop

I don't know anything about Capt. Paul Fields or his record as a police officer.  I'm guessing he is the sort of man who started off as a patrol man and worked his way into an administrative job over the course of his career. 

There are a couple of things we know about him.  The first is in the course of his official duties as a police officer, when criminals have threated to harm a mosque and those attending it, he has provided them with proper police protection.  That is his job.  He is a police officer doing what is expected of him, serving and protecting the rights of the citizens in his jurisdiction.

The second thing we know about Capt. Fields is that he is a Christian that doesn't want to spend his time being proselytized by Muslims.  Both of these things seem very normal to me.  After all there are any number of people that I serve in the course of my job.  I try to do the best I can for these folks and meet their needs and exceed their expectations.  This is what is known as doing your job.  On the other hand, if they show up on my front porch on my day off wanting we to join their religious group, I'm going to politely ask them to leave.  I'm not obligated to give them one bit of my time or attention beyond what is needed to serve them at work.

What happened was Paul Fields was directed to attend, and get other officers to go to a "law enforcement appreciation day" at the local mosque.  At first it was voluntary. Nobody wanted to go.  I don't know why the cops under Capt. Fields didn't want to go.  Maybe it was a day off.  Maybe they had to work but had more important things to attend to.  Maybe Muslims aren't known for having good BBQ or donuts.  Maybe none of them wanted to get their picture in the paper as part of a photo op designed to promote Islam.  Incidentally that is exactly what happened to some cops that showed up.

Capt. Field's employer, the city of Tulsa OK decided that Capt. Fields needed to be ordered to attend.  When he refused, citing his deeply held religious beliefs, he was punished with a reduction in grade and a two week suspension.  Paul Fields then sued his employer on grounds of religious discrimination. 

The courts have all sided with the City of Tulsa.

In the appellate court decision it is pretty clear that the City sends officers to a number of community activities about 10% of which occur in religious facilities.  In the cases of the other religious groups, it has always been a voluntary participation.  Capt. Fields knew this.  He even stated he had no problem with his men going on that basis.  He simply refused to make it mandatory, or go himself.

Why is it voluntary for cops to go to an activity at say a Presbyterian church but its a requirement for cops to go to one at a mosque?

Would a Muslim cop be forced to attend a Jewish Synagogue, or observe an Easter Mass?

I think, at least maybe, one the reasons non-Christians don't give much consideration to the principle of "deeply held religious beliefs" of Christians is that the Christian community doesn't do a very good job of demonstrating that they have them.


  1. It could also be that non religious people know that Christians aren't going to blow up something, or chop off your head either. Bullies always choose the easy target. Less flak that way.

    Something I saw yesterday regarding planned parenthood involving a bunch of renegade religious leaders saying that God was ok with abortion (did you see that!?!?!) is the fact that PP and now Tulsa could be in violation of the 1st amendment involving government and religion.
    By forcing this captain to go to a mosque, and making the other visits to churches voluntary, they could be said to be favoring a particular religion. According to the left, that is a serious no no.

    Imagine that Res. All these years of leftists squealing like pigs about religion and government, and now there are two instances of the mix of both. I was reading a thread on Breitbart and one of the commenters happens to be atheist, and there is movement afoot about the PP situation.

    I love it when the left shoots themselves in the foot, don't you?

  2. I think part of the problem with being Christian today, is that people don't understand the definition of the word "meek". All meek means is "restrained or controlled power".
    That is why Jesus was called meek in the Bible. It did not mean that he was a doormat or a bowl of milktoast. That is the definition that people have in their minds when that word comes up. Jesus had the power to raise people from the dead and heal the sick. But he contained his power and used it to follow his Father's will, not his own.

    I think that is why people have no respect for Christians today Res. They lack understanding of what the word "meek" actually means.

    I also personally do not believe that Jesus had long hair and a shaggy beard either.
    1. NT has that verse about how long hair is a woman's glory and it is shameful on a man(para.)
    2. There is a passage regarding an early attempt to arrest Jesus in a crowd. Back then, Roman fashion was that most men were bare faced and had short hair. Well Jesus melted into the crowd and they could not pick him out because he looked like part of the crowd. If he had the long hair and beard, he would have been spotted instantly. I have thought for a while that the current image of Jesus was meant to demean his divinity and worth in some way by men who hated him.

  3. Res Ipsa5:03 PM


    You make some good points.

    Personally I think Christians have been falling down on the job in terms of speaking out and defending their beliefs. Then a guy comes along and does just that. This court case should have been a slam dunk. If he was a Muslim refusing to go to a church for the same exact type of program, he would have won.